[QUOTE=Maiden1979;312448]Υποτίθεται ότι το παρόν thread υπάρχει για να ποστάρουμε δισκάρες του είδους και με όσο γίνεται αυστηρότερα κριτήρια ώστε να αξίζει πραγματικά κάποιος να κάνει τον κόπο!
Από την άλλη, επειδή τα αυστηρά κριτήρια είναι κάτι εντελώς υποκειμενικό, το αφήνω, αλλά αυτό που δεν μπορώ να “καταπιώ” είναι το εξής.
Το έχω μεγάλη απορία!
Τα μέτρια groups, καθώς χαρακτηρίζονται έτσι ακόμα και από αυτόν που γράφει το post, τι δουλειά έχουν σε αυτό το topic; :-k
Γιατί πολύ απλά για μερικούς μπορεί να είναι καλό. Υπάρχουν άλλοι που θέλουν να ψαχτούν και να τα τσεκάρουν όλα:wink:
Διαφωνείς ότι τα συγκεκριμένα Saxon ανήκουν στο pop metal?
Για πιο λόγο οι Saxon δεν τα παίζουν στα live. Μήπως γιατί είναι σε άλλο ύφος.
Αυτοί που διαφωνούν να κάτσουν να μας πουν σε τι ύφος είναι, να μάθουμε και εμείς.
Οποιος διαφωνεί κάνουμε και ανάλυση track by track στα συγκεκριμένα τρία, δεν έχω κανένα
πρόβλημα dudes.
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Για το Innocence is no excuse
This one never gets mentioned among their classic albums, but for me its one of their best. SAXON put their NWOBHM roots on the back burner and focused on making more accessible hard rock music. The whole album is filled with solid radio-friendly songs, its really a wonder why this didn’t bring them the overseas attention they were aiming for.
Και μια για το Destiny
yeah, I agree with MAX, I Can’t Wait Anymore is one of the best AOR ballads ever, I love this song, great lyrics, catchy tunes, amazing harmonies, real incredible stuff here !!! Ride Like The Wind, S.O.S., Song For Emma, We Are Strong, fantastic AOR stuff, 10000/10
Beginning as a paint-by-numbers glam band before evolving into one of the greatest blues based metal bands of the decade, Great White were one of the few groups to never give up or attempt to cater to current fads. They managed to reach major stardom in the late 80s, but will always be remembered for the tragic events of February 20, 2003.
Formed in Los Angeles, California by friends Jack Russell (vocals) and Mark Kendall (guitar) in the early 80s, they would recruit Lorne Black (bass) and Garry Holland (drums) and record an independent EP produced by Don Dokken. Audie Desbrow replaced Holland before recording for Shot In The Dark began, but few commercial inroads were made until the addition of guitarist/keyboardist Michael Lardie in 1987. Tony Montana would be the bass player by the time the band broke out with the double platinum …Twice Shy. Both the album and the single Once Bitten Twice Shy (a cover of the Ian Hunter classic) would reach the Top 10 in America; Great White had finally reached the big-time.
Unfortunately success was short-lived and the band began to splinter. Kendall would sit out most of the Hooked tour after suffering a hemorrhage due to alcohol abuse and Montana was replaced by Dave Spitz prior to recording of Psycho City, an excellent blues-based album that failed to find an audience. Bassist Teddy Cook was then offered a spot in the band, however he only lasted one album and Spitz was back for the recording of Let It Rock before Sean McNabb was named the permanent bassist. In 1998 the band showed theirs true roots by releasing an album of covers dedicated to their idols Led Zeppelin. In the late 90s the band would be offered the forth major label deal of their career with the upstart Portrait/Sony records. This union resulted in the well received Can’t Get There From Here.
Kendall left in late 1999 to form a band called Train Station, while Great White soldiered on with Ty Longley and a revolving door line-up. In 2002 Jack Russell decided to put the band to rest with a final live album called Thank You…Goodnight and began concentrating on a solo career. While supporting his solo album For You, Russell welcomed back Kendall and once again began touring as Great White. However on February 20, 2003 at the Station in Providence, Rhode Island, tragedy struck. During their opening number the pyrotechnics being used ignited the faulty soundproofing and the club went up in flames. When the smoke had cleared, one hundred people had perished, including guitarist Ty Longley. A series of lawsuits ensued, but once the tears had dried up Great White hit the road again, raising funds for the victims of the nightclub fire. In 2007 the band reformed with to record their first studio album in years called Back To The Rhythm. A band that truly loves the music and fans, Great White now wrestles with their demons as they play - one of rock’s best.
King Kobra epitomized the over-the-top glam movement of the mid 80’s[/B], they were and exceptional yet unsuccessful band. Legendary drummer Carmine Appice, who had been a part of Vanilla Fudge during heavy metal’s birth, grabbed his peroxide cohorts from the Los Angeles glam scene and unleashed them on an unsuspecting public. A change of style and constant line-up changes killed any momentum King Kobra had.
Appice had asked vocalist Mark Free to record some tracks he was working on with legendary guitarist Earl Slick (Dirty White Boy, Little Caesar, etc). These demos secured a major label deal, and a band was formed around Appice, Free, Mike Wolfe (guitar), David Michael Philips (Keel, guitar) and Johnny Rod (bass). Wolfe was gone before recording for the debut started, with Mick Sweda becoming the second guitarist.
This line-up released the first two excellent King Kobra albums and toured behind such metal heavyweights as Kiss and Iron Maiden, but the records failed to garner huge sales, even with the help of “Iron Eagle (Never Say Die)” appearing on the movie of the same name. Rod left in 1986 to join W.A.S.P. and was replaced by Lonnie Vencent. New songs were being recorded when Free decided to walk away from the band, unsatisfied with the direction the band was headed (he would resurface in Unruly Child before becoming a female solo artist named Marcie!). Marq Torien stepped in as the new front man, however he didn’t last very long and took Sweda and Vencent with him to form the BulletBoys.
Appice and Phillips picked up the pieces of King Kobra and soldiered on with Johnny Edwards (vocals), Jeff Northrup (guitar) and Larry Hart (bass). They had lost their major label deal and released King Kobra III on their own imprint, only to watch it sink without a trace. Shortly after Appice was invited to join Blue Murder, and King Kobra was no more. A reunion of sorts occurred when Appice, Sweda, Kelly Keeling (Baton Rouge and Blue Murder, vocals/bass) and Steve Fister (Lita Ford, guitar) released the critically panned Hollywood Trash album. In 2005 Philips showed up in the higly acclaimed Big Cock and released Year Of The Cock. It currently looks as if King Kobra is finished, but their debut remains a glam classic
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I always likened KK to Rough Cutt, not in sound, but in fate. Both released groundbreaking, innovative hard rock albums as debuts, then decided to go into an ill advised pop direction for their follow-ups. Ready to Strike offers an energetic slice of pre-RATTPOISONWARRANT LA strip magic, done long before it all became so watered down. Mark (Marcie) Free was the perfect vocalist for this batch of songs. Good times, but too bad about the follow-up.
Φοβερή λογική! :lol: Τότε να αρχίσουμε να προτείνουμε και άθλιους δίσκους, γιατί όλο και σε κάποιον στον πλανήτη μπορεί να αρέσουν! #-o
Anyway, ποστάρετε ότι θέλετε! Ούτως ή αλλως, έχει χαθεί ήδη η μπάλα…
Όσο για το “εγκυρότατο” sleazy roxx! #-o
Ευχαριστώ, αλλά δεν μπορώ να λάβω σοβαρά υπόψιν ένα site που ασχολείται αποκλειστικά με ένα είδος σκληρής μουσικής!
Σχεδόν τα πάντα εκεί μέσα τα θεωρούν διαμάντια του hard rock, αλλά δυστυχώς η σαβούρα πάει σύνεφο…
Έχω ανακαλύψει και εγώ πολύ καλές μπάντες από εκεί μέσα, αλλά για κάθε μια καλή, υπήρχαν 9 πατάτες!
Και αν π.χ. θεωρεί glam τους Great White, τότε και οι Led Zeppelin είναι glam! #-o [-X
Τhanks, αλλά έχουμε εντελώς διαφορετική άποψη για κάποιες ταμπέλες…
King Kobra was a glam metal group founded by drummer Carmine Appice after his tenure with Ozzy Osbourne in 1984. The band included four relatively unknown musicians: vocalist Mark Free, guitarist David Michael-Philips, bassist Johnny Rod, and guitarist Mick Sweda. After 2 albums on Capitol records (Ready to Strike - November 9, 1985 and Thrill of a Lifetime - 1986), Appice decided to dissolve the band and join guitarist John Sykes on his Blue Murder project in 1989.
Για να τελειώνουμε με αυτό το θέμα, γιατί κούρασε!
Ο πρώτος δίσκος των King Kobra είναι riffάτο μελωδικό hard rock με φοβερές αρμονίες, σχεδόν metal solos (τις δισολίες που παίζονται εκεί μέσα, ούτε στον ύπνο τους δεν μπορούν να τις εμπνευστούν οι περισσότεροι glamsters) και γενικώς παίζουν πολύ “αντρίκια” μουσική γαι την πεις απλά glam. 8)
Εκτός αν χαρακτηρίζεται glam ότι έχει περμανάντ και λίγο make-up…
H “διαφορά” μας metzi έιναι αλλού, την ανέφερες χθές σε ανύποπτο χρόνο, και ουσιαστικά έτσι εξηγούνται όλα!
Εσύ πουλάς ότι Heavy Metal δισκάρα είχες για να πάρεις αποκλειστικά Ηard Rock, είναι ή δεν είναι καλό ,ώστε να έχεις τα πάντα από το είδος αυτό! :roll:
Δικαίωμά σου!
Άλλοι, όπως εγώ, ακούμε την αφρόκρεμα από κάθε είδος (γιατί καλώς ή κακώς ασχολούμαστε με αρκετά είδη και όχι μόνο ένα) που γουστάρουμε και δεν έχουμε κανένα πρόβλημα να “θάψουμε” τις σαβούρες και μέτρια που “λυμαίνουν” τον χώρο!
Έτσι βγάζει νόημα γιατί εσένα σου αρέσουν όλα αυτά που ποστάρεις, ενώ εμένα 1 στα 20 και αν… :-k
Aν “ακούω πολύ” σημαίνει ότι μου αρέσει οτιδήποτε είναι hard / aor ή glam / sleaze, τότε χαίρομαι πάρα πολύ που “ακούω ελάχιστα”, δηλαδή ξέρω να ξεχωρίζω τα top από τις μετριότητες!
Και τέλος, κάτι σχετικά με τα ποσοστά.
Αν έχεις ποστάρει π.χ 100 albums, έχω / έχω ακούσει τα 60 περίπου και από αυτά θεωρρώ αξιόλογα εως δισκάρες 2 με 3!
Έτσι βγαίνει το ποσοστό 1 στα 20!
Αλλά και πάλι, τι σημασία έχει; Αφού εσένα σου αρέσουν, τί σε νοιάζει αν δεν αρέσουν σε άλλον; :-k
