νομιζω ειναι και η 2η φορα που αποχωρει , στο παρελθον το κανε γιατι δεν ηθελε να γινουν οι Celtic Frost κατι που δεν ηθελε και φυσικα διαλυθηκαν
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ειναι και 48 χρονων νομιζω πλεον…
E όχι ρε παιδιά δεν θα το αντέξω και αυτό !!! 
ΔΕΝ ΓΙΝΕΤΑΙ!!! ΠΕΙΤΕ ΜΟΥ ΟΤΙ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΚΑΙ ΑΥΤΗ ΜΙΑ ΦΑΡΣΑ ΠΡΩΤΑΠΡΙΛΙΑΣ…#-o
Είναι πολύ κρίμα ρε γαμώτο να διαλύονται τετοιές μπάντες που έχουν τόσα πολλά να προσφερούν ακόμα…Είναι δυνατόν να βγάζουν τέτοια δισκάρα και μετά να διαλύονται; Πρώτα Arcturus τώρα Φρόστ; ΓΙΑΤΙ; ΓΙΑΤΙΙΙΙΙΙΙΙΙΙ;
Σειρά έχουν οι Mayhem… Να διαλυθούν κι αυτοί, να ξενερώσω τελείως και να σταματήσω ν’ ακούω metal γενικώς… 
Edit: Τέλοσπαντων, δε νομίζω να γίνει έτσι, η απογοήτευση μιλάει…
Χμμμ… τα πραματα δεν ειναι τοσο απλα.
Βαζω ξανα το press release, στα αγγλικα.
I am devastated beyond description, and I am infinitely disappointed. As the one member of CELTIC FROST who is exposed most dramatically to the feedback by our audiences and the media, I feel troubled and humiliated a)about being unable to honor the enormous goodwill extended to CELTIC FROST during the past few years and meet the justified expectations of our fans.
I have always seen the ‘Monotheist’ album as a mere beginning, and a tame one at that. My mind and spirit are full of energy, creativity, and ideas. CELTIC FROST had become the unreserved focus of my life for the second time. I was looking forward immeasurably to working on the next CELTIC FROST album. b)To me, it needed to be darker, heavier, and more experimental than ‘Monotheist’. And yet, CELTIC FROST consisted of three individuals, and I was only one of them. In the end I had to concede to myself that there was no other option.
My friendship with and respect for Martin Eric Ain [bass] remain unaffected B[/B]. Moreover, c)I am in the process of assessing my options to eventually complete, record, and release some of the ideas I originally created for CELTIC FROST and the planned next album in the course of the past few years, and to take our distinctive music out on the road again.
There is no way back.
O Warrior απο πριν καν βγαλουν το Monotheist ειχε αναφερει οτι ‘‘αν η νεα μας προσπαθεια δε παει καλα, δε πιστευω πως θα υπαρξει επομενη’’. Το καλοκαιρι δε, ανεφερε πως η επομενη δουλεια τους πρεπει να ναι εξ ισου ‘‘δυνατη’’ ωστε να υπαρξει ενα μελλον. Η ανησυχια ηταν εκδηλη εδω και καιρο.
Τα παραπανω με προβληματιζουν. 1) Ειτε ο Ain δε συμφωνουσε με τη μουσικη κατευθυνση, οποτε & τα σπασανε σε φιλικο κλιμα, ειτε 2) παιχτηκε θεμα σε μουσικη & προσωπικη βαση. Τη μία αναφερει τη μπάντα ως ‘‘τριμελη’’, αλλά απ την αλλη αναφερεται ξεχωριστα προς τον Ain σε φαση οτι οι σχεσεις τους δεν επηρρεαστηκαν απ το γεγονος. Αυτο δεν σημαινει οτι τα πηγαιναν και μια χαρα.
Όπως και να χει, ο Tom ήταν σιγουρα μονος στην όποια απόφαση και γι αυτο ‘‘εφυγε’’ απ’ τους Frost. Η μπαντα λογικα ειναι on hold μεχρι να υλοποιηθει το no way back. Δηλαδη:
α) & β) Τα παραπανω δειχνουν πως ο Tom δε δεχοταν κανενα συμβιβασμο όσον αφορα το οραμα του. Οτι μειωνε το γκρουπ (κατα την οπτικη του γωνια) δεν ηταν δεκτο.
c) Οι Frost ουσιαστικα δε τελειωσαν. Ο Fischer συνεχιζει μονος, στα χναρια του Monotheist. Το no way back λογικα παει στην μουσικη κατευθυνση. Και απ’ οτι φαινεται, ισως δε προβει σε solo δουλεια, αλλα σε κανονικη μπαντα, με αλλο ονομα. “I am in the process of assessing my options”…
Για να δουμε.
Ό,τι και να κάνει εμένα θα μ’ ενδιαφέρει. Όπως άκουσα με ενδιαφέρον και τους Apollyon Sun λόγω της αφεντιάς του, όπως αντίστοιχα είχα ασχοληθεί στο παρελθόν με ό,τι κι άν έκανε μια άλλη αγαπημένη μου μορφή, ο Martin Walkyier…
Τί σκέφτηκα τώρα συνειρμικά… Για φανταστείτε ένα project Warrior-Walkyier… Ως πόσο θα μπορούσε να σπέρνει κάτι τέτοιο… :roll:
(πάω για ύπνο… 
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Όπως και να 'χει, οι CF πλεον δεν υπαρχουν. Εκτος εαν τα βρει με τον Ain, πραγμα αδυνατον. Το συγκεκριμενο περιεργο κλιμα υπηρχε εδω κι 8 μηνες οποτε…
Πολυ κριμα, επειδη ο τυπος ειναι τεραστια μορφη. Όπως και να χει όμως, το Monotheist Companion θα μας ‘‘κρατησει συντροφια’’ (τι ειρωνια ε;) ωσπου να μαθουμε τι μελει γενεσθαι.
To Frost We Bow. Όσοι τους ειδαν live ξερουν.
Κτ που λεει το wiki για νεο δισκο ξεχασμενο ειναι λγικα!(
Πράγματι, τα πράγματα είναι άσχημα αλλά ποτέ δεν ξέρεις…:-k
νεα απο Blabbermouth.net
Former CELTIC FROST frontman Tom Gabriel Fischer has posted the following message on his official blog:
"It was not my departure from CELTIC FROST which caused the group’s inexorable demise. It was the group’s inexorable demise which caused my departure.
"CELTIC FROST’s approach was unlike any other I have encountered in my many years in the music industry. Regardless of whether one revered or detested CELTIC FROST, this was a deeply unique group. And while there were unquestionably some who did detest CELTIC FROST, it seemed impossible for them to manifest any criticism beyond petty personal attacks or preposterous conjecture typically rooted in their own distorted perception rather than in the group’s actual reality. In fact, this might also be true for some of us within the group itself."In its second incarnation, CELTIC FROST was far more unassailable than in its first. It could only be destroyed from within. And this, we accomplished to perfection.
"Leaving the project which was the focus of most of my existence, the group that was the content of my life, was not a decision I took hastily or lightly. On the contrary, it was, and still is, extremely difficult and almost unbearably painful. My departure was a consequence of the personal environment prevailing within the group for some five years, and particularly since CELTIC FROST stepped back into the limelight in May 2006. I would not have taken this step if there had been a glimpse of another option. But there wasn’t; the damage incurred had finally become irreversible.
"For the past seven and a half years, CELTIC FROST was for the second time synonymous with my life, my energy, my passion, my vision, and my creativity. So much so, that I was frequently berated by those around me for the intensity of my identification with the band. But CELTIC FROST was, of course, not just art and creativity ? it was also an assemblage of very distinctive and extremely volatile human characters. This was the group’s very propellant and, ultimately, its ruin. The thought that this great, extraordinary band no longer exists, that it had to disintegrate due to what in effect constituted human complacency, is utterly insufferable.
"It is also completely unbefitting the unique legacy of CELTIC FROST.
"It has become simply impossible to reply to the uncounted phone calls and mails I have received since the news of my departure broke. To learn that CELTIC FROST has come to mean so much to so many is extremely moving. At the same time, it is also dreadful to know how disappointed all those are who loved the band. This also includes our friends and mentors, some of whom tried to intervene together with me until the last minute (and, in some cases, past it) to prevent the worst from happening. Carmen and HR Giger, for example, Ravn of 1349, or the group’s brilliant manager, Antje Lange.
"Moreover, it is nearly impossible to justify the course of events in the face of those who worked so hard to enable the disinterment and second rise of CELTIC FROST: our live guitarists V Santura and Anders Odden, our webmasters, our crew, and the staff of our concert agency, Twisted Talent, and of our record company partners, Century Media.
"I am attempting to collect my thoughts right now, which is still incredibly difficult. Artistically, I did not want to leave CELTIC FROST at all; I have never been happier with the music and creativity in the band. I saw ‘Monotheist’ as only the first of hopefully several distinctive albums by this group. I thus plan on continuing exactly in the artistic vein of CELTIC FROST. I had very a distinct vision of what the next two CELTIC FROST albums might consist of, and I intend to eventually fulfill this vision and complete these albums with a new group. I would also like to continue touring and perform the music I have written in CELTIC FROST over the years for audiences all across the globe.
“In closing, at long last, I am also deeply indebted to my friend Wrath of AVERSE SEFIRA for his forceful epitaph in honor of CELTIC FROST, which stands representatively for the many comments I have received.”
Αναφερει πως δεν ηθελε. Οχι οτι π.χ. δε χρειαζοταν.
Artistically, I did not want to leave CELTIC FROST at all; I have never been happier with the music and creativity in the band. I saw ‘Monotheist’ as only the first of hopefully several distinctive albums by this group.
Τα παραπανω δεν αναιρουν τις προηγουμενες δηλωσεις:
To me, it needed to be darker, heavier, and more experimental than ‘Monotheist’. And yet, CELTIC FROST consisted of three individuals, and I was only one of them. In the end I had to concede to myself that there was no other option.
Εκτος εαν πλακωθηκαν ΧΟΝΤΡΑ με τον Ain για αλλους λογους.
My friendship with and respect for Martin Eric Ain [bass] remain unaffected
Αυτο δηλωνει οτι παραμενει στο status που ηταν. Δε σημαινει οτι τα πηγαιναν και σουπερ.
Στη τελικη ρε Φισερ αποφασισε. Δε μπορει και να τα χεις καλα με ολους, και να συμφωνουσατε στα μουσικα, και στη τελικη να τους παρατησες συξηλους για το ενα εκ των δυο θεματων.
Εγώ πάλι αυτό που καταλαβαίνω είναι πως είχε τις ιδέες του αυτός για τη συνέχεια της μπάντας και την κατεύθυνση της μουσικής και οι άλλοι δε συμφώνησαν. Και ειδικά επειδή δεν τα πάει και τέλεια με τον Martin λογικά διαφώνησαν σε έντονο ύφος. Και σου λέει “άστους αυτούς, να βρω μια άλλη μπάντα να κάνω ό,τι γουστάρω”
… κι έφτιαξε τους TRIPTYKON. Όσο καλοί κι αν γίνει αυτή η μπάντα, CELTIC FROST δεν θα γίνουν ποτέ.
Ας αφήσουμε τις ανούσεις συγκρίσεις κι ας περιμένουμε μια πιο ολοκληρωμένη δουλειά από την εισαγωγή που ακούσαμε στο mypsace για να βγάλουμε συμπεράσματα.
Συμφωνώ να περιμένουμε, αλλά οι συγκρίσεις δεν είναι τόσο ανούσιες από την στιγμή που ο ίδιος ο Tom δηλώνει ότι η νένα μπάντα είναι η συνέχεια των CF.
Oι συγκρίσεις είναι ανούσιες εφ’ όσων δεν έχουμε ακούσει τίποτα ακόμα, μ;
Ε, ναι ρε.
Προφανώς κ πρέπει να περιμένουμε ολοκληρωμένη δουλεια…
Βασικά αν βγάλει καμιά δισκάρα ο Warrior, θα πρέπει να βρω το τηλέφωνο του Ain μετά για να τον σκυλοβρίσω.
Μην κοιτάξεις στον “χρυσό οδηγό” κοίτα στον “μαυρο οδηγο” και θα το βρείς το τηλ του.:lol:
Ξέρεις κανείς από εσάς τι εξοπλισμό χρησιμοποιούν οι κιθαρίστες του συγκροτήματος (αν είναι δύο…), ενισχυτή,πετάλια, κιθάρες?
Such As You Are
It is, apparently, the nature of my personality and my career. I have lived a life in which I have frequently and always voluntarily accepted risks to my art, my existence, and my financial security. I have exposed myself uncounted times and very publicly, and I have never hesitated making controversial decisions. It has always been this course of action which has defined me and my path as well as my music. At the same time, this approach has often made me fail miserably, and my audaciousness has led me to make plenty of mistakes, some of them very serious ones.
And yet, the biggest mistake I have ever made in my life was to agree to Martin Eric Ain’s proposal to add that one member to the line-up of the reformed Celtic Frost, in late 2002. Regardless of the urgency of the situation then, and in spite of the enormous difficulties we encountered in finding an adequate drummer in Switzerland, it is a mistake I will never forgive myself for, until the day I die. Particularly so, since I subconsciously sensed it was a mistake even within the first week of rehearsals.
His litanies continue verbally and in writing, even as Celtic Frost no longer exists. They have affected friends, musicians, fans, as well as Celtic Frost’s band and crew members, who have all become an involuntary, awkward audience. Even notwithstanding my own very clear opinion regarding the above, it is a disgrace and an immense display of disrespect towards the history of Celtic Frost and the sentiments of the group’s dedicated friends and fans. It is a betrayal of what we agreed to as the group disintegrated. It is a descent into the muck utterly inappropriate for Celtic Frost, even in death.
Posted by Warrior at 3:43 AM
Όσοι πιστοί, μεταφράστε !!!
τοσο κακος drummer ηταν?? :-s :-k