Groups καί genres ένοχες απολαύσεις

Άντεξα από Σάκη το πρώτο χαρντ ροκ κόλλημα της ζωής μου

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Μιας και πιάσαμε το ελληνικό ρεπερτόριο…

…1995 και μια καινούρια στάρλετ αναδύεται! Η 20χρονη τότε Πέγκυ Ζήνα (Ηπειρώτισσα στην καταγωγή) κάνει την πρώτη της δισκογραφική εμφάνιση και επιτυχία. Στο πρώτο της βίντεο ακτινοβολεί νιάτα και ομορφιά, όμως το κάπως αφελές (για να το θέσω ευγενικά) θέμα των στίχων θα την ακολουθεί για αρκετό καιρό!

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Γιατι; Καλα τα λεει το κοριτσι

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Και τι κάνεις εδώ μέσα;;

Θα σε ρωτήσει κιόλας;

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Έχω money, έχω drugs, είμαι dealer (Woo)
Έχω πάρει στη πουτάνα μου chinchilla (Prr)

Όχι, εγώ τη ρωτάω :wink::joy::crazy_face:

Είδα σκοτάδι κ μπήκα
:smirk:

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Μεγάλη ένοχη απόλαυση πάντως είναι και το κανάλι της Floor Jansen στο youtube όπου και διασκευάζει από κλασικά ποπ κομμάτια μέχρι Disney και ότι άλλο μπορεί να φανταστεί κανείς (εκτός από metal) και τα κάνει όλα δικά της.

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Και διασκευαρα στο Euphoria βεβαιως βεβαιως (οκ ναι Eurovision το δικο μου guilty pleasure γαμησε τα)

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Carnivore ακούμε ή τρώνε άκυρο λόγω της στιχουργικής θεματολογίας τους; Προσωπικά (κι έχοντας σχηματίσει μια εικόνα για τη σοβαρότητα/χιούμορ του Peter Steele στους Type O Negative) με βολεύει να τους εκλαμβάνω ως ένα χοντροκομμένο αστείο τύπου S.O.D., αλλά από την άλλη συνέχεια ακούω τις φωνές του Βαγγέλη και της Σόνιας στο μυαλό μου να φωνάζουν “βλάκες, πεταμένοι, επικίνδυνοι ηλίθιοι/Carnivore, S.O.D. και Agnostic Front”, την ώρα που πάω να ποροθώ με κάτι “Race war” και “Male supremacy” και δεν μπορώ ν’ απολαύσω την ακρόαση. :flushed: :flushed: :flushed:

Αν και οι CARNIVORE δε μου λένε και πολλά (οι TON πάλι μου λένε πάρα πολλά):

I’d heard that Rock Hard, at the peak of its popularity, was still completely owned by the three original founders. That’s a feat of which it’s almost impossible to find comparable examples, seeing as how the bigger media houses tend to usurp everything.

That’s true, the three people who started it… they’re all still there so besides for me, everything else is still the same really. We always said no when big distributors wanted to buy the magazine, we talked to those people and listened to their offers but, in the end, our answer was always no. Rock Hard stayed a fanzine for most of its existence. Our best-selling issue was the one with Peter Steele (TYPE O NEGATIVE, CARNIVORE) on the cover, which sold 72,000 copies. We had a print run of about 120,000 back then that was the best-selling issue.

If I recall correctly, there’s an interesting story behind that cover.

– Peter Steele sent me the CARNIVORE demo when it came out so I was a fan from day one. When I went to New York for the first time in my life I called up everybody whose number I had including Peter and tried to arrange interviews. By that time, in 1985, the first album just came out and Peter had shaved his head and gone skinhead but I didn’t know that. There was a CARNIVORE show at L’Amour East, which was one of the most popular concert locations in New York back then…

Isn’t that the place mentioned in “Unsuccessfully Coping with the Natural Beauty of Infidelity”?

Yeah, right, that one. It was in a really, really bad neighbourhood people told us we could only go there by cab. ‘Don’t walk there’, they said, ‘it’s really dangerous’, so it was a weird feeling going there to begin with. Upon arriving at the venue, I was surprised to discover that about seventy percent of the crowd were white power skinheads. The rest were long-haired, including me I had long hair back then so I wasn’t really feeling at home, to put it mildly. The atmosphere felt very dangerous, everybody was sieg-heiling and that was a really strange feeling. I’d called Peter beforehand so we had an interview booked for after the show. When we met, I mentioned having found the audience a bit strange and told him I’d always thought everything on the first album was only jokes and sarcasm. I asked him about that and he told me some stuff that was very right-wing. For instance, that he’d support any right-wing group there is. This was one of the sentences he used in that interview.

Once back in Germany, Götz wrote a story in Metal Hammer based on the interview.

You know where I stand politically, right? You know that I’m a lefty. I’m not as bad as I used to be back then, I’m a little more tolerant these days. I wrote the article like what he told me then the second album came out and TYPE O NEGATIVE started. When they came to Europe for the first time, the German antifa used my article to cancel some of the shows which I thought was bullshit. I was still a CARNIVORE fan and wanted to see both them and TYPE O NEGATIVE so I didn’t think it was a good idea using my article to ban the concerts. So, most of their dates were cancelled. Then the second TYPE O NEGATIVE album came out and their record company called me up and said ‘Peter wants to meet you and talk about that old interview. He’s in Germany and is willing to come to your office, if you’re up for it.’

Consequently, Steele alongside keyboardist Josh Silver turned up for deliberations. Götz prepared himself by digging out the tape containing the old interview.

First thing I did was play him the comments I had on tape. Then I said, ‘Peter, I’m still a fan of the band and we can talk about everything as long as you’re honest and don’t tell me any bullshit.’ So, we started the interview and he explained to me that he was working as a park cleaner in New York back then and the foreigners were only causing trouble and he really hated all the other races. However, having now been to Europe, Peter said he realised things are a bit different to America and he could see that now and understood why I’d be offended by some of his remarks. Then I went to take a piss. My desk was really full of beer cans and ashtrays and everything, and in the midst of it all was the recording machine that I’d forgotten to turn off. I went to the toilet, came back and noticed the tape was still running. I didn’t mention it but pretended to put it on again and continued with the interview.

So, what did they say while you were gone?

– Josh went to Peter, ‘Should we be really honest or a bit more’… what’s the word, ‘diplomatic?’ And Peter said, ‘I think he’s an honest guy who really likes the band let’s just tell him how it is. Fuck it, let’s just be honest. We don’t care and cannot help if he makes up shit, but I trust him.’ Hearing this as I was putting the story together meant I trusted him and believed everything he told me as honesty coming from the heart. The feature ended up a very long story in Rock Hard, the best-selling issue I mentioned. We put Peter on the cover and everything changed; the band became big, the antifa made friends with him and everything was alright. Suddenly there were no more problems and every time he returned to Germany, we always met and ended up becoming good friends. He was a really cool guy with an amazing sense of humour.

https://www.bardomethodology.com/articles/2019/03/06/gotz-kuhnemund-interview/

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Κοίτα να δεις κάτι πράματα.

Ε, δεν ακούμε.

Ουσιαστικά δεν έχω καμία ενοχή απόλαυση, αλλά ας πούμε ενώ αναγνωρίζω πως είναι λίγο τυρενιοι καραγουσταρω beast in black και τους τρεις δισκους.

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Ως ανθρωπος που παρακολουθει φανατικα ολη την σαιζον της Eurovision απο τον Νοεμβρη, με τους Εθνικους τελικους κομπλε, μου φαινεται αστειο να μιλαμε για guilty pleasures εντος ροκ-μεταλ. Αν επρεπε να βρω κατι, διασκεδαζω πολυ με Babymetal και Beast in Black (ειδικα το τελευταιο που μπλεκει και synthwave μεσα, τρελο σκαλωμα) και φυσικα αγαπαω και την τυριλα των Sabbaton.

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