Nirvana

Αρχικα τους σνομπαρα σαν μπαντα οφειλω να πω. Μετα μου εφερε μια φιλη μου το Nevermind. Τοτε τα άκουσα ολα!!! Καποιοι λενε οτι ο Cobain δεν ηταν καλος κιθαριστας και οτι εφτιαχνε τραγουδια με πολυ απλα riffs. Αυτο που εχω να τους πω ειναι οτι γι αυτον ακριβως το λογο τους παραδεχομαι. Εφεραν ενα νεο επαναστατικο κυμα στη μουσικη. Ο ιδιος ο Cobain λεει οτι μετα τους Nirvana το ροκ απλως επαναλαμβανεται. Δεν ξερω αν οντως ειναι ετσι(δεν πιστευω ομως) αλλα αυτοι οι τυποι ειχαν αυτο το δεσιμο και εγιναν τοσο αγαπητοι στο κοινο. Ηταν καθαρο grunge πραγμα που το εχω συνδεσει με κατι τελειως underground και free.Και ναι καταφεραν τοσα με απλα riffs…

Οι Nirvana βασικά (τους οποίους γουστάρω) δε δημιούργησαν κάτι καινούργιο. Το “επαναστατικό” με τους Nirvana είναι οτι εκτίναξαν μια ολόκληρη μουσική σκηνή στα ύψη και έκαναν mainstream έναν ήχο που μέχρι τότε ακουγόταν σε λιγότερο μαζικά ακροατήρια. Έχετε ακούσει Pixies, όλοι εσείς οι φίλοι των Nirvana? Τεράστιο γκρουπ και πολύ μεγάλη επιρροή για τον ίδιο τον Cobain, στη μουσική του οποίου θα βρείτε όλα όσα υπάρχουν και στους Nirvana (και πολύ περισσότερα όμως).

Το ένα “επαναστατικό” λοιπόν με τους Nirvana είναι οτι έκαναν ξανά το “χύμα”, το αλήτικο ροκ, mainstream. Με αποτέλεσμα τόσοι και τόσοι μετά να ακολουθήσουν. Κάτι τέτοιο πρέπει να είχε να γίνει απο την εποχή των Sex Pistols. Το άλλο που έκαναν οι Nirvana ήταν οτι απενεχοποίησαν τους ροκ μουσικούς απο την τάση να έχουν ένα συγκεκριμένο “μοδάτο” στυλ, να είναι stars, και να παίζουν περίτεχνα και πολύπλοκα σώνει και καλά πράγματα. Έβγαιναν έξω, ήταν οι εαυτοί τους, έπαιζαν αυτά που ήθελαν (και μπορούσαν), και αυτό ήταν, έτσι απλά.

Τρίτο, συνδύασαν την αγριάδα της ροκ μουσικής (με τα πανκ κατάλοιπα, γι’ αυτή τη ροκ μιλάω) με το μελωδικό και το ποπ στοιχείο. Για άλλη μια φορά, τονίζω, δεν ήταν ασφαλώς οι πρώτοι! Απλά εκείνοι πήραν αυτή τη συνταγή και την εκτίναξαν, σε μια εποχή που μάλλον ήταν αυτό που χρειαζόταν.

επίσης μην ξεχνάτε και το γεγονός ότι οι νιρβάνα δεν ήταν ψωνισμένοι,δεν θέλαν να ανήκουν στο star system.κλασσικό παράδειγμα η εμφανισή τους που “καταστρέφουν” το smells like teen spirit,γιατί πολύ απλά δεν γουστάραν να παίξουν playback.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHrqkefrm50

δεν ειμαι φαν των νιρβανα σε καμια περιπτωση αλλα πιστευω πως καναν εστω κ ενα μικρο βημα για να παει λιγο πιο περα η μουσικη. μπορει ο κομπαιν να ηταν πρεζονι η αλητης η οτιδηποτε αλλο αλλα δεν εγραψε κατι που να μη βγαινει μεσα απο την ψυχη του. πιστευω πως οι νιρβανα ηταν μια μπαντα με πραγματικο δεσιμο κ μου φαινεται λιγακι περιεργο που ο κερτ αυτοκτονησε… δεν ξερω ειναι καπως απιστευτο

[SPOILER]Tell me about your background.
KURT COBAIN: I was born in Aberdeen, Washington, in 1967, and I lived between Aberdeen and Montesano, which was 20 miles away. I moved back and forth between relatives’ houses throughout my whole childhood.
Did your parents split up when you were young?
Cobain: Yeah, when I was seven.
What was it like for you growing up?
Cobain: I was very isolated. I had a really good childhood, until the divorce. Then, all of a sudden, my whole world changed. I became antisocial. I started to understand the reality of my surroundings, which didn’t have a lot to offer. Aberdeen was such a small town, and I couldn’t find any friends that I was very fond of, or who were compatible with me, or liked to do the things that I liked. I liked to do artistic things and listen to music.
What did you listen to then?
Cobain: Whatever I could get a hold of. My aunts would give me Beatles records, so for the most part it was just the Beatles.
Tell me about your high school experience. Were people unpleasant to you?
Cobain: I was a scapegoat, but not in the sense that people picked on me all the time. I was so antisocial that I was almost insane. I felt so different and so crazy that people just left me alone.
When did you first hear punk rock?
Cobain: Probably `84. I keep trying to get this story right chronologically, and I just can’t. My first exposure to punk rock came when Creem started covering the Sex Pistols’ U.S. tour. I would read about them and just fantasize about how amazing it would be to hear their music and to be a part of it. Then, finally, in 1984 a friend of mine named Buzz Osborne [Melvins singer/guitarist] made me a couple of compilation tapes with Black Flag and Flipper, everything, all the most popular punk rock bands, and I was completely blown away. I’d finally found my calling. I’d already been playing guitar by then for a couple of years, and I was trying to play my own style of punk rock, or what I imagined that it was. I knew it was fast and had a lot of distortion. Punk expressed the way I felt socially and politically. There were so many things going on at once. It expressed the anger that I felt.

MTV thinks Nirvana is a metal band.
Cobain: That’s fine; let them be fooled! I don’t have anything against Headbanger’s Ball, but it’s strange to see our faces on MTV.
Kirk Hammett is a huge Nirvana fan.
Cobain: That’s real flattering. We met him recently and he’s a real nice guy. We talked about the Sub Pop scene, heavy metal and guitars.
Speaking of guitars, you seem to favor low-end models.
Cobain: I don’t favor them-I can afford them. [laughs] I’m left-handed, and it’s not very easy to find reasonably priced, high-quality left-handed guitars. But out of all the guitars in the whole world, the Fender Mustang is my favorite. I’ve only owned two of them.
What is it about them that works for you?
Cobain: They’re cheap and totally inefficient, and they sound like crap and are very small. They also don’t stay in tune, and when you want to raise the string action on the fretboard, you have to loosen all the strings and completely remove the bridge. You have to turn these little screws with your fingers and hope that you’ve estimated it right. If you screw up, you have to repeat the whole process over and over until you get it right. Whoever invented that guitar was a dork.
It was Leo Fender.
Cobain: I guess I’m calling Leo Fender, the dead guy, a dork. Now I’ll never get an endorsement. [laughs] We’ve been offered a Gibson endorsement, but I can’t find a Gibson I like.
Is the Mustang your only guitar?
Cobain: No, I own a '66 Jaguar. Lately, I’ve been using a Strat Live, because I don’t want to ruin my Mustang yet. I like to use Japanese Strats because they’re a bit cheaper, and the frets are smaller than the American version’s.
The acoustic guitar you play on “Polly” sounds flat.
Cobain: That’s a 20-dollar junk shop Stella-I didn’t bother changing the strings. It barely stays in tune. In fact, I have to use duct tape to hold the tuning keys in place.
Considering how violently you play the guitar. I have to assume you use pretty heavy-duty strings.
Cobain: Yeah. And I keep blowing up amplifiers, so I use whatever I can find at junk shops-junk is always best.
What was the last amp you blew up?
Cobain: A Crown power amp that was intended for use as a PA, but which I used for a guitar’s head because I can never find an amp that’s powerful enough-and because I don’t want to have to deal with hauling 10 Marshall heads. I’m lazy-I like to have it all in one package. For a preamp I have a Mesa/Boogie, and I turn all the mid-range up. And I use Radio Shack speakers.
How reliable is this setup? It doesn’t seem like it would be that durable, especially in view of all the touring you do.
Cobain: It works out okay. The sound changes with every club we play in, but I’m never satisfied. I think the sound I get is mainly a result of the Roland EF-1 distortion box I use. I go through about five a tour.
Ever get the urge to use a twang bar?
Cobain: No. Anybody that plays guitar knows that only Jimi Hendrix was able to use the standard tremolo and still keep it in tune. Those things are totally worthless. I do have one on a Japanese Strat, but I don’t use it.
Is playing guitar a pleasure for you, or do you battle with the instrument?
Cobain: The battle is the pleasure. I’m the anti-guitar hero – I can barely play the thing myself. I’m the first to admit that I’m no virtuoso. I can’t play like Segovia.
Your first album, Bleach, was recorded for $600; how much did Nevermind run you?
Cobain: [laughs] I don’t remember, I’ve got Alzheimer’s. Please don’t ask us how much our video (Smells like teen spirit) cost; that’s a hell of an embarrassment. We definitely could have used some film student, who would’ve done just as good of a job.

Are you and Eddie Vedder friends now? Have you always been friends?
Cobain: We’ve never had a fight ever. I just have always hated their band. I didn’t consider him a person that I really like. We’ve had a few conversations on the phone and he’s a person I really like. You know, I really like him. He’s a really nice person.
Didn’t Axl Rose say something nasty to you at the MTV Video Music Awards in September (1992)?
Cobain: They actually tried to beat us up. Courtney and I were with the baby in the eating area backstage, and Axl walked by. So Courtney yelled, “Axl! Axl, come over here!” We just wanted to say hi to him - we think he’s a joke, but we just wanted to say something to him. So Courtney said, “Will you be the godfather of our child?” I don’t know what had happened before that to piss him off, but he took his aggressions out on us and began screaming bloody murder.
These were his words: “You shut your bitch up, or I’m taking you down to the pavement.” [laughs] Everyone around us just burst out into tears of laughter. She wasn’t even saying anything mean, you know? So I turned to Courtney and said, “Shut up, bitch!” And everyone laughed and he left. So I guess I did what he wanted me to do-be a man. [laughs]
Does he remind you of guys you went to high school with?
Cobain: Absolutely. Really confused, fucked-up guys. There’s not much hope for them.

How would you describe Dave Grohl?
Cobain: Dave is in really good shape although he smokes two packs of cigarettes a day.
Chris Novoselic?
Cobain: Chris is the horror of the stars. He has no shame whatsoever in carousing with the likes of Winona Ryder and Johnny Depp.
And Kurt Cobain?
Cobain: Fuck him, he complains too much.[/SPOILER]
http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/nirvana81/kurttop.htm


http://www.nirvana-music.com/
http://www.nirvanafreak.net/
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nirvana

Οι παλιές αγάπες δεν ξεχνιούνται …

#-o #-o #-o

Tη θυμάμαι τη δήλωση…
Στο Guitar World τα είχε πεί…

Βασανισμένο παληκάρι ήταν, ας τον αφήσουμε στην ησυχία του…

H ιστορία έχει κρατήσει τις θέσεις που πρέπει και για αυτόν και για τον Leo Fender και για την Gibson…

Ευχαριστώ τον θεό που άρχισα να ακούω μουσική στις αρχές των '90s, εποχή που υπήρχαν συγκροτήματα όπως οι pumpkins, οι τρύπες και τα ξύλινα σπαθιά στην ελλάδα, και πάνω απ’όλα οι nirvana. Όλη η γενιά μου μεγάλωσε με αυτούς οπότε δεν μπορώ παρά να τους έχω παθολογική αγάπη.

Το χειροτερο απο ολα ειναι οτι συνεχιζουν να χρησιμοποιουν το ονομα του Cobain για να τα οικονομανε καποιοι,
απο παπουτσια,μπλουζες και ενα σωρο αλλα.[-X

Οταν λες “καποιοι” αναφερεσαι στην Courtney Love? :stuck_out_tongue:

Ε νταξ νομιζω οτι ειναι προφανες, ο cobain εχει “φυγει” εδω και ποσα χρονια και πολλες εταιριες συνεχιζουν να βγαζουν ΤΑ λεφτα καθως εκμεταλλευονται το ονομα του βγαζοντας διαφορα πραγματα. Μια απο αυτες η Courtney Love:p

?If you die you’re completely happy and your soul somewhere lives on. I’m not afraid of dying. Total peace after death, becoming someone else is the best hope I’ve got.?
?I used to try to make my head explode by holding my breath, thinking that if I blew up my head, they’d [mom and dad] be sorry.?
?I’m gonna be a superstar musician, kill myself and go out in a flame of glory, just ike Jimi Hendrix?
?It’s better to burn out than fade away.?

…και πολλά πολλά άλλα…

Αυτό είχε καταλάβει από τον Hendrix δηλαδή… :frowning:
Θλιβερό :frowning:

γενικά είναι ιδιαίτερα διαδεδομένο αυτό… Hendrix , joplin, morisson εφυγαν όλοι στα 27… ο κομπέιν αυτοκτονισιοδολοφωνήθηκε το 94… γεννημένος το 67… do the math…

Nαι το "club των 27άρηδων"έχει αποκτήσει πιά μία μυθική διάσταση που αφήνει μεταφυσικές υπόνοιες… Ειδικά επειδή το πρώτο του μέλος ήταν ο Robert Johnson του οποίου ο θάνατος συνεχίζει να καλύπτεται από αρκετό μυστήριο.

Προσωπικά δεν τα πολυπιστέυω αυτά. Και οι απόψεις μου για τα διάφορα μέλη του club ως μουσικούς διαφέρουν πάρα πολύ…

…14 χρόνια!

+1 για εμας…(μεγαλωνουμε…:frowning: )

Εν τω μεταξύ είναι προφανές ότι ο Cobain ήταν emo.
(Με την πραγματική σημασία της λέξης,όχι αυτό που έχει καταντήσει σήμερα με τα 14χρονα)

Θα προτιμούσα τη λέξη καταθλιπτικός.

Πές το κι έτσι:p

αλέφας… :lol: